In the final instalment of Cam and Renee’s in-depth look into first home buyers, they were joined by Serina Bird, host of ‘The Joyful Frugalista’ podcast and author of the forthcoming book ‘How to Pay Your Mortgage Off in Ten Years’.

Serina’s philosophy is based around the “Frugulaista” who she described as “someone who enjoy’s saving money but still has a good life.”

In their chat, Serina gives her insights about how people can save money while challenging the idea that saving = miserable.

Listen the whole chat below: